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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Amah » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:54 pm

same here. Several old hdds, cdrw backups etc... I already found different textures for the Bug and now the Wolf this way. But seemingly I lacked Griff's fullsize oxps... So, the finding in your "archive" is a really great :-)
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Cody » Thu Dec 04, 2014 9:59 pm

Amah wrote:But seemingly I lacked Griff's fullsize oxps...
I have full-size versions of his Dodo and Coriolis stations from June 2012 too, if you need them.
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Amah » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:06 pm

not sure if I need them (I think they weren't changed so much like the ico), but I'd like to have a look... I think there was a cori with a cleaner texture as well. If you could put it online somewhere, this would be awesome.
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Cody » Thu Dec 04, 2014 10:13 pm

<delves into Box> I have an alt Coriolis here, and a Dodo here - enjoy!

Griff's Wolf MkII is a lovely ship, btw - the only one that's ever tempted me to switch from my Cobra MkIII (apart from the Constrictor Special, perhaps).
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Amah » Fri Dec 05, 2014 7:22 am

thanks a lot for putting them online. It seems they are very much the same compared to the current ones, but it was definetly worth a try. :-)
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Fatleaf » Fri Dec 05, 2014 12:40 pm

Cody wrote:Griff's Wolf MkII is a lovely ship, btw - the only one that's ever tempted me to switch from my Cobra MkIII (apart from the Constrictor Special, perhaps).
What about the lovely [EliteWiki] S9? That has been a favourite of mine for a long time now.
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Post by Amah » Sun Dec 07, 2014 2:18 pm

Hej,

just updated the noshaders stations expansions and uploaded a new additional Griff's alternate stations package with two more variations of the core icosahedron and rock hermit.

The Z_Groovy station resources and the respective Z_Groovy stations addon config bundle was updated and now also provides Dertien's (beta) Icosahedron in the same design of his Tetrahedron Depot and Octahedron Outpost and the Griff Coriolis.

The fullsize stations bundle has drop-in high resolution textures for all core stations (coriolis, dodecahedron and orange icosahedron).
Optional noshader packages like the alternate stations and Z_Groovy SML-Stations are supported when installed, too. Beware it's a huge download.

All stations packages can be combined, so if you install all of them then your Ooniverse will be populated with variants of 2 Tetrahedron-, 2 Octahedron-, 2 Coriolis-, 2 Dodecahedrons-, 4 Icosahedron stations and 2 rock hermits.

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e.g. default ico, alternate ico, alternate orange rock hermit and Z_GrOovy SML-station Ico, all in fullress textures

hope you like it, have fun

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Ps. bg thanks to Cody for providing me with the orange fullres ico. :-)
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Redspear » Mon Dec 08, 2014 5:41 pm

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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Amah » Tue Dec 09, 2014 3:42 pm

thanks, redspear. I'm currently playing around with probabilities... Atm the extra stations are much rarer than the default ones. Not sure whether they should be much more frequent.

Other than that. I'm looking into Staer9's shipset and wonder if I should convert them back. And I'm reorganizing my box account yet again.
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Amah » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:16 pm

Hej,

staer9 (thanks a lot!) was so kind to give me permission to work on his ships for the noshaders extra ships. I made a test upload of his Salamander to my box account, for anyone interested in giving it a try. Here's a quick shot:

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in other news, I'm updating all packages to be Oolite v1.81 compatible, especially Z_GrOovy's stations and the Viper raiders, so new uploads will be slower now.

anyway, have a nice christmas time.
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by spara » Mon Dec 15, 2014 10:25 pm

It would be super cool if after your hard work with the no shader versions of Staer9 ships someone could make an update for the shader versions too and put it to the manager.

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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Amah » Tue Dec 16, 2014 6:23 am

Hej Spara,

Staer9 wrote to me Keeper looks after his original package, but I wonder if he planned to release a OXZ with his recent updates. I'm probl. no use in working on or even fixing shadered ships I'm afraid. Cut'n pasting the original shaders and materials section should work tho (hacked together a test oxp for the salamander and will put it online if there's interest).

Concerning the noshaders Salamander I had to fix a bug I introduced in its shipyard.plist preventing it to appear and had to update the oxp. (sorry :-\)
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Norby » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:21 am

spara wrote:someone could make an update for the shader versions too and put it to the manager.
I am planning to do it due to not only I like these designs but there are more ships in this package which will be good escorts on my Escort Deck.
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by Venator Dha » Tue Dec 16, 2014 11:46 am

Norby wrote:
spara wrote:someone could make an update for the shader versions too and put it to the manager.
I am planning to do it due to not only I like the designs but there are more ships in this package which will be good escorts on my Escort Deck.
Cool. That could make me break my core ships only rule :D
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Re: [Wip] No shaders Griff's extra and alternative ships...

Post by spara » Tue Dec 16, 2014 12:38 pm

Amah wrote:Staer9 wrote to me Keeper looks after his original package, but I wonder if he planned to release a OXZ with his recent updates.
It seems that Keeper's been busy with other stuff for a while as he has not been a round, so I guess there's little hope that an oxz version is coming from him very soon.
Amah wrote: I'm probl. no use in working on or even fixing shadered ships I'm afraid. Cut'n pasting the original shaders and materials section should work tho (hacked together a test oxp for the salamander and will put it online if there's interest).
I don't think there's anything wrong with the shaders, but the roling needs to be checked with thought, shipdata needs to be cleaned and ships need rebalancing. Keeper did some work with the new roles and weights, but it looks a bit unfinished. Shipdata really needs cleaning up as it's a result of at least three (?) different authors from a range of time. And finally ships with twin lasers are overpowered and need to be seriously toned down. Military lasers should be downgraded and accuracies removed, let the game handle them. There might be more issues, but these are from the top of my head.
Norby wrote:I am planning to do it...
Who ever plans on putting Staer9 shipset to the manager, please take some extra time and consider the points above.

I'm really looking forward to these ships, they used to complement the core ships beautifully.

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