Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

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Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

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If someone has an idea for a nice stroy for this ship, i have not found a nice one:
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The Secretarybird is a fast ship with good energy systems and some place for cargo. That makes it popular with pirates or hunters. Further it is often used for more tricky courier jobs or passenger contracts.
https://app.box.com/s/exu2gsjcfcib1quhxt19zqoooz04p0mn

And should i make a version with 1024-textures?

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tsoj wrote:should i make a version with 1024-textures?
No imho, the current 2048 ones are working well even in my netbook.

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Really nice new ships Tsoj :D :D
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Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

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tsoj wrote:If someone has an idea for a nice stroy for this ship, i have not found a nice one

INTRODUCING!
The All-New SecretaryBird, from AviaNautics!

Sure to raise a tail feather or two from the competition, this would make even the Fierce Horned Birds from Bixein blush with envy! It's sleek design and spacious interior, complete with a luxury nest built-in to the cockpit, ensures that you will forever fly with all the grace of a Nubexian Eagle! But don't let these pleasures fool you - this is a hardened ship for any Eliten Combateer. It's got marvelous energy banks for a ship of it's class, and even a token amount of cargo space for all the pods of your vanquished foes! It really shines, though, in a courier position, where it's sure to out-run, out-class, and out-preform all of the competition!

Don't be a bird-brain! If you're as classy as a Terran Peacock, be sure to pick up yours now! This wonder-ship is available to you all for the low sum of [insert inflated number here] at any basic system with a low tech level of [insert TL here].

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I liked the look of tsoj's Chrysopelea so much I went and gave it some shader work to make it look metallic, make the lights on top flash, and introduce random colours. Since it was set up for four designs already (four different colours originally), I kept it that way but introduced four different colour schemes, each with random paint colours.

I can send you what I did if you like, tsoj.

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This looks great, so yes, i really would like to have these. :D
If its ok for you i would update the chysopelea-oxp with these texture. (Of course you would get the credits for that what you did)

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Sending to you now. I've made a few more tweaks to the paint schemes, making each version have different panels coloured, e.g. the flame-nose doesn't have the centre line; the star-nose doesn't have that section next to the centre line; the pirate has only the centre line. I've also made different exhaust plume colours like Griff ships have.

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Tsoj, I noticed you updated the link on your Chrysopelea post, but it's the initial version I sent you where I had some code in the wrong place that was messing up the lighting for systems not running shaders (not to mention I'd completely skipped adding shader code to one of the player versions!). I had sent you a note an hour later that I'd updated the archive to a corrected version. Make sure to download the new version so even people without running shaders can enjoy the ship properly.

Or better yet, since you've updated the readme already, just download the corrected shipdata.plist here: http://www.keeper1st.com/Oolite/shipdatachrys.zip

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I remodelled one of my ships:

Vipers are fast. Everyone wants to be fast. That is what Oojov Breelox thought when he stole the engine
from Faulcon de Lacy's next-gen Viper prototype. He had the vision that everyone can fly as fast as he wants.
He founded the Tsoojov Engineering Corporation, for short TEC, and the first craft he produced in series was
the Apep Mk II. It reaches an astonishing velocity of 440 LM and some technically versed pirates even tuned
the engine to reach about 450 LM. With these specs, it would be a very popular choice for hunters, assassins,
pirates, and couriers, wouldn't it be for the materials needed to build a copied Viper engine. The hard
process of finding these today make this ship a rare sight.


TEC Apep Mk II

Size: 69m×15m×83m
Cargo capacity: 5 TC
Maximum speed: Very Fast (440 LM)
Manoeuvrability: Fast (Roll: 2.8, Pitch: 1.5)
Shields: Average
Energy recharge rate: Average (3.0)
Gun mounts: Fore
Missile slots: 3
Base price: 520200 Cr

Download:
https://app.box.com/s/3v30uanskafptggf60qhhwxoklih1jgm
Since I still haven't learned how to create good looking textures I used the textures from Griff's normalmapped ships and made them fit as best as I could. I hope that's okay.

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tsoj wrote:
Sat Feb 22, 2020 12:27 am
I remodelled one of my ships:
You have some great looking ships here, is it just me or are they not available in the expansion pack manager and the ship list ? It would be a pitty, a package of your ships, maybe with different textures, would be a nice addition to Oolite. 8)
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Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

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Very nice ships! I added a "gloss = 0.7" value to the TEC Apep materials to make it shinier.

Also, I'm very happy to add these to the manager for you, if you wish.

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a very simple re-texture before lunch, a little brighter and some blue :lol: Actually I think 3 front-lasers would look cool, I could assign them for you. My personal favorite from the ships I checked here is the Chrysopelea, great model and great textures.
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I uploaded these ships now to the expansion manager.
a very simple re-texture before lunch, a little brighter and some blue :lol: Actually I think 3 front-lasers would look cool, I could assign them for you. My personal favorite from the ships I checked here is the Chrysopelea, great model and great textures.
If you send me the texture you made I can try to use it for different texture variants of this ship.
I assume with 3 front lasers you mean the two extra stubs right beside the main laser? When I have time I can take a look at this, I would then use a slightly different 3D-model to make the ship variants with 3 front lasers vs just one front laser visually distinguishable.

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Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

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tsoj wrote:
Mon Feb 24, 2020 1:30 am
I uploaded these ships now to the expansion manager.
If you send me the texture you made I can try to use it for different texture variants of this ship.
I assume with 3 front lasers you mean the two extra stubs right beside the main laser? When I have time I can take a look at this, I would then use a slightly different 3D-model to make the ship variants with 3 front lasers vs just one front laser visually distinguishable.
Well done, if you also add your ship descriptions to the wiki http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Category:Oolite_ships I am pretty sure there will be new pilots in no time. :wink:

Regarding texture, here we go:
https://app.box.com/s/hnrw2lflqucajklyjpdo870kstje62kx
I converted to photoshop so hopefully you can use it. Please keep in mind that it just was ment as a sample, so I invested only around 10 - 15 min in this layers. I guess within this week I could offer some better job.

Regarding multi-lasers:
Since Oolite 1.83 shipdata.plist offers the option of http://wiki.alioth.net/index.php/Shipda ... mount_mode so its pretty simple to assign 3 front-lasers. For NPC ships I sometimes use subentities so you got 1 powerful main-laser plus 2 additional mounts for weaker lasers. The stubs would serve fine for that but I admit that, while not necessary, a modification of the model would look better.

If you need help please let me know, I got some free time coming soon so happy to assist.
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Re: Show and Tell (new ships/ ships in progress)

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montana05 wrote:
Tue Feb 25, 2020 2:17 pm
I guess within this week I could offer some better job.
Sorry, took me a little longer but here some more examples:

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Basic texture, some rusty overlay

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Blue overlayer, specular color in blue as well

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Green overlayer, specular color in green as well

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Black overlayer, emission map modified

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Red/Rusty overlayer, emission map modified
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