[Solved] Sound Absent

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Re: Sound Absent

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Getafix wrote:For the add-ons case, could it be that you are using a symbolic link "AddOns" to point to an actual AddOns folder?
We had a case, sometime in the past (not pointing fingers here! :) ),
where add-ons could not be detected because oolite installation is replacing the symbolic link AddOns by an actual empty AddOns folder.
Yeah.. that was rather embarrassing... :oops: :mrgreen:
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Re: Sound Absent

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Thargoid wrote:The middle line below may indicate that you've put the game accidentally in strict mode, which would account for a lack of add-ons?

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21:44:42.786 [dataCache.rebuild.explicitFlush]: Cache explicitly flushed with shift key. Rebuilding from scratch.
21:44:42.786 [searchPaths.dumpAll]: Strict mode - resource path:
    ~/GNUstep/Applications/Oolite/oolite.app/Resources
21:44:42.922 [shipData.load.begin]: Loading ship data.
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Re: Sound Absent

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Getafix wrote:For the add-ons case, could it be that you are using a symbolic link "AddOns" to point to an actual AddOns folder?
We had a case, sometime in the past (not pointing fingers here! :) ),
where add-ons could not be detected because oolite installation is replacing the symbolic link AddOns by an actual empty AddOns folder.
I thought of that. I put the same files into both the .Oolite AddOns folder in my Home directory, and in the AdOns in the Directory within the Gnu Directory, and it made no difference. Unless having the same thing in two places made it even more confused. Strict Mode? Man, I never thought of that, because I've never done that before (believe it or not :) ). I'll check that out.

Getafix, I just noticed that I didn't run those commands you asked for. I'll do that, and be back with the results.
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Re: Sound Absent

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mandoman wrote: Getafix, I just noticed that I didn't run those commands you asked for. I'll do that, and be back with the results.
Don't forget to install the 64bit oolite. I see from your latest log post that you still use the 32bit oolite.
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Re: Sound Absent

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Okay, Thargoid, you were right (as usual). I must have triggered "strict play" a couple of times ago when I was trying to exit the game. Weird.

Getafix, forgive me for not doing as you asked, but I decided to purge my system of Oolite, and then re-install using package database. Unfortunately, it only has access to version 1.76.1. However, once more I still don't have sound, and this version is the 64bit version. It also installed the game to system wide, rather than Home, which I don't care for. I need to purge again, and download the game from the Oolite site, rather than through the database. Be back.
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Re: Sound Absent

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Interesting. I purged it from my system, but it still shows up in /usr/lib/Gnustep/Applications.

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Why does the file still pyhysically exist in the /usr directory, even after having purged it from the system using Terminal?
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Re: Sound Absent

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mandoman wrote:I decided to purge my system of Oolite, and then re-install using package database. Unfortunately, it only has access to version 1.76.1. However, once more I still don't have sound, and this version is the 64bit version. It also installed the game to system wide, rather than Home, which I don't care for. I need to purge again, and download the game from the Oolite site, rather than through the database. Be back.
mandoman wrote:Interesting. I purged it from my system, but it still shows up in /usr/lib/Gnustep/Applications.

Why does the file still pyhysically exist in the /usr directory, even after having purged it from the system using Terminal?
Umm.. since you installed it with a package manager, you should have uninstalled it with the same tool, not from the terminal.
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Umm.. since you installed it with a package manager, you should have uninstalled it with the same tool, not from the terminal.[/quote]

I did. dpkg --remove oolite, dpkg --purge oolite. I believe that is correct, or am I mistaken?
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I think what Diziet meant was, didn't you install it from Synaptic or Software Center? Using one of those would be the way to remove it if that's what you used to install it to begin with.
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Re: Sound Absent

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CommRLock78 wrote:I think what Diziet meant was, didn't you install it from Synaptic or Software Center? Using one of those would be the way to remove it if that's what you used to install it to begin with.
LOL!! That's what I meant too. Seems I didn't remove it correctly. I'm on my laptop right now, so I'll look into the correct way tomorrow. Still learning, sorry. :)
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Re: Sound Absent

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Okay, I now have removed Oolite using the Package Manager, and have downloaded and installed the 64bit version from the Oolite download site. The sound is fine, and it is detecting all AddOns. However, the video is still jerky. I don't understand that, as I've got two Intel Pentium 4 CPUs, running at 3.5GHz. Shouldn't both Linux and Oolite be able to not just detect those beasties, but make use of them too? I'm still reeling about the XP fiasco with the GeForce video card, so it's hard to understand what's happening here. Help. :cry: :)
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Re: Sound Absent

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Basically, package installations on Linux, whether via apt, Synaptic, Software Centre or even RPM, can scatter numerous files in various places across the system, unlike, for example, Macs, where all the files for a package are generally kept in one place. I've seen Mac users describe the Linux method as a "shotgun install"..

That's why it's important to use the same package installation system to uninstall anything that was installed by it in the first place.. it keeps a record of all the files, and where they're located, so that nothing gets left behind.
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Re: Sound Absent

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mandoman wrote:However, the video is still jerky. I don't understand that, as I've got two Intel Pentium 4 CPUs, running at 3.5GHz. Shouldn't both Linux and Oolite be able to not just detect those beasties, but make use of them too?
I have no doubt at all that Linux and Oolite are using both CPUs.

But it's not about the CPUs.. the jerky video is all about the graphics chip and drivers. Could you run those commands posted by Getafix please, and post the results?

Note: Getafix has updated the post details.
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Re: Sound Absent

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mandoman wrote:have downloaded and installed the 64bit version from the Oolite download site. The sound is fine, and it is detecting all AddOns. However, the video is still jerky.
Diziet Sma wrote:But it's not about the CPUs.. the jerky video is all about the graphics chip and drivers.
We only have to troubleshoot the jerky video.
I understand that you have two graphics controllers; one onboard (Intel) and one nVidia, right?
Please, perform the steps that I already posted and post the results per each step.

Furthermore, return your add-ons status to the state where your OXPs resided in one AddOns folder,
either ~/.Oolite/AddOns/ or ~/GNUstep/Applications/Oolite/AddOns/
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Re: Sound Absent

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mandoman@mandoman-5800 ~ $ uname -a
Linux mandoman-5800 3.11.0-12-generic #19-Ubuntu SMP Wed Oct 9 16:20:46 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

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mandoman@mandoman-5800 ~ $ ldd ~/GNUstep/Applications/Oolite/oolite.app/oolite
	linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x00007fff1d5ce000)
	libGLU.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libGLU.so.1 (0x00007fbc5906e000)
	libGL.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 (0x00007fbc58e10000)
	libX11.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 (0x00007fbc58ada000)
	libSDL-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSDL-1.2.so.0 (0x00007fbc58843000)
	libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libSDL_mixer-1.2.so.0 (0x00007fbc585f3000)
	libgnustep-base.so.1.20 => not found
	libplds4.so.0d => not found
	libplc4.so.0d => not found
	libnspr4.so.0d => not found
	libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 (0x00007fbc583d4000)
	libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 (0x00007fbc581d0000)
	libstdc++.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 (0x00007fbc57ecb000)
	libpng14.so.14 => not found
	libespeak.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libespeak.so.1 (0x00007fbc57c53000)
	libobjc.so.2 => not found
	libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x00007fbc5794e000)
	libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 (0x00007fbc57738000)
	libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007fbc5736f000)
	libglapi.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglapi.so.0 (0x00007fbc57149000)
	libXext.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 (0x00007fbc56f37000)
	libXdamage.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1 (0x00007fbc56d33000)
	libXfixes.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3 (0x00007fbc56b2d000)
	libX11-xcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11-xcb.so.1 (0x00007fbc5692b000)
	libxcb-glx.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-glx.so.0 (0x00007fbc56713000)
	libxcb-dri2.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri2.so.0 (0x00007fbc5650e000)
	libxcb.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 (0x00007fbc562f0000)
	libXxf86vm.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXxf86vm.so.1 (0x00007fbc560e9000)
	libdrm.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm.so.2 (0x00007fbc55edd000)
	libasound.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasound.so.2 (0x00007fbc55bed000)
	libpulse-simple.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse-simple.so.0 (0x00007fbc559e8000)
	libpulse.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpulse.so.0 (0x00007fbc5579f000)
	libcaca.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcaca.so.0 (0x00007fbc554d2000)
	libmikmod.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmikmod.so.2 (0x00007fbc5527f000)
	libfluidsynth.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libfluidsynth.so.1 (0x00007fbc54fa9000)
	libvorbisfile.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libvorbisfile.so.3 (0x00007fbc54da1000)
	libFLAC.so.8 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libFLAC.so.8 (0x00007fbc54b6f000)
	libmad.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libmad.so.0 (0x00007fbc54950000)
	/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007fbc5930c000)
	libportaudio.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libportaudio.so.2 (0x00007fbc54720000)
	libsonic.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsonic.so.0 (0x00007fbc5451b000)
	libXau.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 (0x00007fbc54317000)
	libXdmcp.so.6 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 (0x00007fbc54110000)
	librt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 (0x00007fbc53f08000)
	libpulsecommon-4.0.so => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pulseaudio/libpulsecommon-4.0.so (0x00007fbc53ca0000)
	libjson-c.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjson-c.so.2 (0x00007fbc53a96000)
	libdbus-1.so.3 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdbus-1.so.3 (0x00007fbc53851000)
	libslang.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libslang.so.2 (0x00007fbc534c0000)
	libncursesw.so.5 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libncursesw.so.5 (0x00007fbc5328c000)
	libtinfo.so.5 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libtinfo.so.5 (0x00007fbc53063000)
	libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007fbc52e49000)
	libglib-2.0.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglib-2.0.so.0 (0x00007fbc52b48000)
	libjack.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libjack.so.0 (0x00007fbc528ef000)
	libsndfile.so.1 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libsndfile.so.1 (0x00007fbc52686000)
	libreadline.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libreadline.so.6 (0x00007fbc52444000)
	libvorbis.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libvorbis.so.0 (0x00007fbc52217000)
	libogg.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libogg.so.0 (0x00007fbc5200d000)
	libwrap.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libwrap.so.0 (0x00007fbc51e03000)
	libasyncns.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libasyncns.so.0 (0x00007fbc51bfc000)
	libpcre.so.3 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpcre.so.3 (0x00007fbc519bd000)
	libvorbisenc.so.2 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libvorbisenc.so.2 (0x00007fbc514ed000)
	libnsl.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnsl.so.1 (0x00007fbc512d3000)
	libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 (0x00007fbc510b9000)

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mandoman@mandoman-5800 ~ $ cd /
mandoman@mandoman-5800 / $ find . -name oolite -print 2> /dev/null
./home/mandoman/GNUstep/Applications/Oolite/oolite
./home/mandoman/GNUstep/Applications/Oolite/oolite.app/oolite
mandoman@mandoman-5800 / $ cd

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mandoman@mandoman-5800 ~ $ ~/GNUstep/Applications/Oolite/oolite.app/oolite
/home/mandoman/GNUstep/Applications/Oolite/oolite.app/oolite: error while loading shared libraries: libgnustep-base.so.1.20: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
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